September 7, 2017


Filed under: Climate Crisis, Dance of Death, Tower of Babel — Russ @ 8:24 am


1. For the most part, it’s a mass of drug addicts who would never give up the rock. Some complain that some of the dealers are nastier than others, others say the opposite, but they all want the rock and therefore want the dealers.
Does anyone actually want to quit?
2. We have a mass of drug addicts. Some defiantly claim there’s no problem: “There’s nothing wrong, and I enjoy this, so I’m going to keep doing it.” Others are incessantly remorseful and always promising to stop. They never stop.
Is there anyone who’s had enough of all these addicts and their addiction?


  1. W Bush said we’re addicted to oil as a nation. Unfortunately, his solution to addiction was to secure supply. Do you still use a car?

    Comment by VernonHuffman — September 7, 2017 @ 9:08 am

    • Forced to, just like e.g. having to bow to the fact of land ownership. The car regime is near totalitarian. If I could press a button and abolish it all I would. But almost no one else would. If more did, maybe we could do something about it.

      Comment by Russ — September 7, 2017 @ 4:09 pm

      • Lots of Americans are car-free, especially in NYC. I’ve been car-free twenty years on the Left Coast. https://bike4peace.com/

        Comment by VernonHuffman — September 7, 2017 @ 11:37 pm

      • I’m not in the city. Meanwhile even cities like NYC which are built in places which in theory can ecologically sustain cities are bloated many orders of magnitude beyond the sustainable level. At best the same is true of wherever you live.

        The fact is, short of building a shack in the middle of the wilderness and living off the land, we’re all forced to be parasites. Few can do that, nor does any human being have an obligation to do that. We’re inherently social animals, and if we’re forced into insane social situations with no alternative (and today there is no alternative to the extreme energy civilization; I can’t find even a handful of people to oppose it on principle and practicality) we must cope the best we can.

        In our case, the only point is to be the least parasitic we can be, by being the least destructive we can be (for example avoiding use of poisons, and wasting as little water as possible) giving back to the Earth all we can (e.g. being active in the food sovereignty movement and building as much soil as we can; I’ve done both for many years), propagating the necessary ideas, and not telling lies. Thus I may be forced to drive a car but I publicly say the car as such must go. I don’t go out and get a Prius and then claim I’m doing something “sustainable” for the “environment” the way the climate crocodiles do.

        Comment by Russ — September 8, 2017 @ 4:39 am

      • There are intentional communities, ecovillages, and good old fashioned communes like the Farm,Russ, where people are modeling less exploitative lifestyles. Yes, the world is going to hell in a handbasket, but some of us are working to counter those trends in the most positive ways we can imagine. Please join us. It will improve your outlook.

        Comment by VernonHuffman — September 8, 2017 @ 11:53 am

      • BTW I don’t know much about bicycles, but according to James Howard Kunstler they’re not sustainable either without globalized supply chains. I have no doubt that’s true of today’s designs.

        If so, then it’s only pedestrians and the horse and buggy types who can claim to be at the goal already, as far as transportation is concerned.

        Comment by Russ — September 8, 2017 @ 4:43 am

      • I don’t doubt there’s small groups working like you say, though I haven’t heard of any near here. The intentional-type places around here, such as a Steiner complex nearby, are rather high-budget, see themselves as quasi-alternatives within Babylon, and don’t see Babylon as Babylon anyway. But in various ways they’re better than the mainstream. If you’re involved with some good groups, tell us about them.

        Comment by Russ — September 8, 2017 @ 2:44 pm

  2. There’s nothing you can do. Americans will keep on to the bitter end. The most the rest of the world can do is put up barriers and protections of various sorts.

    But there’s no curing America. You know this.

    Comment by dolph — September 7, 2017 @ 9:23 am

    • There’s certainly no reforming anything here. The transformation has to rise from the soil and cohere from the air, protect itself, and do what it can where it can, until Babylon collapses. That’s the only place for anyone who would answer Yes to those questions. There’s no place within the system, within its false politics and culture. All that’s the crack house.

      Comment by Russ — September 7, 2017 @ 4:09 pm

  3. Nothing is perfect, Russ, but there are lower impact bicycles. http://www.bikebamboo.com/

    Comment by VernonHuffman — September 8, 2017 @ 12:04 pm

    • I wasn’t criticizing transportation bicycling. If one can arrange things that way, it’s better than driving a car. I was saying, in light of your question about the car, that these are all on a spectrum of unsustainability. The link looks interesting. I’ll send it along to my biker friend to get her opinion.

      Comment by Russ — September 8, 2017 @ 2:48 pm

  4. Capitalism is a lethal drug.

    Comment by Maxfield — September 8, 2017 @ 1:19 pm

    • Sure is. I’d say that specifically the luxury junk and, for many, the very process of domination/destruction, are the drug, with capitalism/productionism the maximizing mode of these.

      Comment by Russ — September 8, 2017 @ 2:44 pm

  5. Just curious, Vernon Huffman, do you still/did you have a driver’s license?

    If you still have a driver’s license: why haven’t you forfeit that license?

    If you have forfeit your prior driver’s license[s], isn’t it true that you did so only when you, personally, felt, that it wasn’t required – physically (as in needs to frequently visit a hospital miles away, or, drive, say an elder parent, or child, to one), or economically (there are people having to work two to three jobs in order not to be homeless, which they could never do without a car) – but at some earlier point in life you felt it was required?

    Further, quoting you, Vernon Huffman:

    Lots of Americans are car-free, especially in NYC.

    You are kidding aren’t you, Vernon? …. Really?

    First of all – outside of living in utter poverty and STATE abuse – the vast majority of humanity in the US (let alone the worlds population) could never ever afford to live in New York City, San Francisco, etcetera; and have not been able to do so for decades upon decades,.

    Secondly, would you like to place a bet on how many of those persons in NYC, San Francisco, et al, who:

    • still retain driver’s licenses for renting vehicles as they frequently fly to other cities.

    • use enormous limos to run their chores.

    • have their help -who can only afford to live outside whose city’s limits – use their vehicles.

    • can afford taxis, or surge priced (over all) Uber™’s, et al, and also incorporate one or more of the above fallbacks and many times own their own helicopters, jets or hobby flying planes.

    • OWN unaffordable to near anyone anymore (on top of a needed auto and/or stunningly high bus fare), Bicycles™, solely for their own physical, emotional, and reputational well being; as they have stunningly large CARBON FOOTPRINTS when one takes into account their personally owned jets, et al and/or stunningly frequent “flying” by FOSSIL FUEL.

    Comment by diane — September 8, 2017 @ 5:57 pm

    • Correction, the third ‘bulleted [●]’ point, directly above, should have read (i.e. those, not, whose):

      ● have their help -who can only afford to live outside those city’s limits – use their vehicles.

      Comment by diane — September 8, 2017 @ 6:25 pm

    • (and then, Vernon, what to make of (bolding mine, emphasis yours):

      I’ve been car-free twenty years on the Left Coast.

      the Left Coast[™] – I’m confused, do you mean as in thoughtful , wise, resourceful, appreciative of ‘others’ vital needs, and kind????? You aren’t aware of how stunningly homogenous, racist, misogynist and ageist that Left Coast™ (your domicle), havebeen/still are?

      You might want to start with perusing these links:

      http://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/WA/WA.html )

      Comment by diane — September 8, 2017 @ 7:47 pm

    • (and then, Vernon, what to make of (bolding mine, emphasis yours):

      I’ve been car-free twenty years on the Left Coast.

      the Left Coast[™] – I’m confused, do you mean as in thoughtful , wise, resourceful, appreciative of ‘others’ vital needs, and kind????? You aren’t aware of how stunningly homogenous, racist, misogynist and ageist that Left Coast™ (your domicle), havebeen/still are?

      You might want to start with perusing these links:

      h t t p : // www . uvm . edu / ~lkaelber/eugenics/CA/CA . html
      h t t p : // www . uvm . edu / ~lkaelber/eugenics/OR/OR . html
      h t t p : // www . uvm . edu / ~lkaelber/eugenics/WA/WA . html )

      (this is a mostly duplicate post (the first post attempt was made at 7:47 PM Eastern Daylight time [US EDT], almost three hours ago, with the exception that I’ve replaced a dash with a question mark, and entered spaces into the above urls so they can’t be caught in spam.)

      Comment by diane — September 8, 2017 @ 10:36 pm

  6. One needn’t be a Luddite, nor independently wealthy, to live car-free. Many of us are living on far less than the American average, but that doesn’t translate to being miserable. We’re learning to grow our own food, pedal our own bikes, and care for our neighbors. We’re not perfect, but we’re improving.

    Comment by VernonHuffman — September 8, 2017 @ 8:07 pm

    • See my comment (numbered 5), over an hour ago, directly above, addressed to you; as it appears that you’ve missed it, or ignored it.

      Comment by diane — September 8, 2017 @ 8:49 pm

      • Yes, Diane, I have a driver’s license. I don’t need it to commute 100 mi/wk by bicycle, but I did use it when I rented a truck to move my possessions to another state. So what?

        Comment by VernonHuffman — September 8, 2017 @ 8:59 pm

    • Vernon, I’m not speaking for Diane, but I can say that what’s necessary (and inevitable anyway) is indeed what the mainstream would call “Luddite”. (Your term, not mine. But historically the Luddites were in fact 100% proven right.) Why all the moving to another state? ‘Twas a time when that took much effort…

      My point being the same as yours, the people who mean it aren’t perfect but are improving.

      Comment by Russ — September 9, 2017 @ 3:58 am

      • I agree with you wholeheartedly, Russ, regarding a much needed massive renewal of Luddism.

        Comment by diane — September 9, 2017 @ 2:36 pm

  7. been busy preparing for the storm

    I have no driver’s license and only ride a bike but this seems too much like virtue signalling and attacking (defending?) the messenger, while the message of who has the largest carbon footprints (and why) seems to have been lost

    supporting war and air travel are the 2 biggest ones, followed by factory meat and cars

    – all of this is supported by billions spent per year on propaganda, which is the root problem. The corporate media is our single greatest enemy.

    and look who owns it

    Comment by Anonymous — September 9, 2017 @ 3:17 pm

    • Who’s “virtue signalling”? I think my position of total abolition is clear. And other than a few people like myself who would press that button, who’s the honest messenger?

      Of course, one of the reasons I’ve jettisoned “the left” is precisely because they join with the right to tell Malthusian lies about “overpopulation”, as opposed to the physical fact that no amount of the Western-type footprint, including that embraced by the left with its fake “renewables” horse shit, is sustainable.

      Who other than me wants to really live the post-fossil fuel agroecological world?

      Comment by Russ — September 9, 2017 @ 4:18 pm

    • I hope you and yours remain safe, Anonymous.

      I would add also to the Major Destructive Footprints, The High Speed! Internet/Web/Smartphones/Delivery Robots/FitBits!, etcetera (the rare earths, toxins of discarded rapidly obsolesced gadgetry, and stunning electricity and land and water diversion costs) it has been kept silent for over a decade now, because Technocracy. Just for one thing, I don’t think there’s a device or appliance sold anymore, that doesn’t suck electricity 24/7. For an example, my 2006 printer, while Shut Off™, still operates as if it is on, so I’ve always pulled the plug. Further, there is increasing evidence that the EMFs we are near utterly enveloped by now, in the US, are very likely to be utterly deadly, long term; no thanks to Section 704 of the 1996 FCC’s Telecommunications Act (emphasis mine):

      Twenty years ago, during Bill Clinton’s presidency and Reid Hunt’s chairmanship of the FCC, the U.S. Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 (the TCA). Section 704 prohibits municipalities from denying a permit to install telecom equipment based on environmental and health concerns. Regardless the public’s awareness of this federal law, we all live downwind of it.

      Most recently, on July 14, 2016, the FCC’s commissioners voted unanimously in favor of the Spectrum Frontiers Proceeding. This vote gives the FCC authority to allocate (rent) 5G (5th generation) mobile operations.

      The FCC expects that 5G will be operational by 2020. Google plans to test 5G in 2016 in Mountain View, Palo Alto and San Jose, California.


      Comment by diane — September 9, 2017 @ 4:22 pm

  8. Sorry Russ that wasn’t directed at you. Yes they think eliminating the working poor so they can live a high-carbon lifestyle is a god-given right. We’re in agreement > 99 % of the time, I merely focus on somewhat different issues. (Your GMO research went further than mine while I went further with pesticides using the EWG data)


    There’s nothing special about 5G, so far it’s only vaporware. Perhaps you could clarify what ‘downwind’ refers to, using specific examples.

    Some lead-clad cables are buried, leaching into the water table? Maybe some PCB laced oil leaking somewhere?

    Comment by Anonymous — September 9, 2017 @ 10:05 pm

    • Sounds good. What’s your pesticide conclusion?

      Comment by Russ — September 10, 2017 @ 3:34 pm

      • Checking the MSDS and other info on the pesticides listed in EWG’s report, I found all pesticides cause short and especially long-term neurological damage including brain damage, that higher life forms are far more sensitive to these neuro-toxins, that insects quickly adapt creating super-bugs, while we bear lasting genetic damage from generation to generation.

        Pesticides originally were developed as nerve gases and then after the war ‘adapted’ for civilian use, so it’s no surprise really how toxic they are to Mammals. I also found all plastics are toxic, not so much due to a few actually not being so, but because plasticizers are added to all plastics (even when they don’t really need it like polyethylene)

        These petrol-chemicals disturb the balance of nature, from the land/sea/air all the way down to our gut biome.

        Comment by Anonymous — September 11, 2017 @ 12:04 pm

      • I learned from Tolstoy to “write it strange”, as he called it. Just describe reality. All pesticides are genotoxic and are endocrine disruptors, everyone knows that, and yet the corporate state and the STEM establishment do all they can to maximize the spraying of pesticides. Everyone also knows that pesticides don’t work, but only generate resistance among bugs and weeds. And of course it’s historically proven that poison-based agriculture economically destroys farmers, drives them off the land, increases hunger, and drives rainforest destruction.

        Therefore anyone who in any way tolerates or supports poisonism must want all these results. They want this as a massive uncontrolled human environmental and feed experiment. We must proceed accordingly.

        Comment by Russ — September 11, 2017 @ 2:01 pm

    • Not ignoring you, I responded to your comment moments ago but it’s in moderation (comment 17301). I’ll check back later and try to repost it if it doesn’t post.

      Comment by diane — September 10, 2017 @ 4:28 pm

    • (Third attempt to respond, Anonymous (the second attempt: comment 17303, just prior to your last post above, I added spaces to the url I thought might be snagging it), so this time I’m going to break my response into two parts, maybe it’s the length that’s snagging it. Part 1:

      Re your comment:

      There’s nothing special about 5G, so far it’s only vaporware.

      Sorry, but that’s simply not true, and also, it’s widespread implementation will be exceedingly more intrusive and violating:

      June 23, 2017 EMF Scientist Appeal Advisors Call for Moratorium
      on Policies for 5G “Small Cell” Antennas

      The advisors to the International EMF Scientist Appeal submitted a letter to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in opposition to a proposed change in FCC rules that would allow rapid deployment of 5th generation (5G) wireless infrastructure throughout the nation. A copy of the Appeal was appended to the letter.

      5G involves transmission of millimeter waves which operate at much higher frequencies than currently used for cellular transmission (30 to 300 gigahertz). Because the range of these signals is limited (i.e., less than a football field), hundreds of thousands of new “small cell” antennas will be required in the U.S. The wireless industry wants to install these not-so-small cellular antennas on existing public utility poles.

      The FCC intends to streamline the approval of these antennas which would further undermine the regulatory authority of cities and states over cell towers.

      Meanwhile the wireless industry is lobbying for legislation in many states across the country that would limit local authority over cell antenna deployment.

      Due to the concern that the FCC’s new rules will result in increased exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMF), the Appeal’s advisors oppose the new rules and call for a “public health review of the growing body of scientific evidence that includes reports of increasing rates of cancer and neurological diseases that may be caused by exposure to EMF from wireless sources.”

      The Appeal reflects the concerns of 225 EMF experts from 41 nations about the impact of EMF exposure on public health. All of the experts who signed this appeal have published research in peer-reviewed scientific journals about the biologic or health effects of EMF.
      [source: http : // www . saferemr . com /2016/08/is-5g-cellular-technology-harmful-to . html delete the added spaces]

      the above “source” link has other articles and links you might check out if you’re interested.

      Comment by diane — September 11, 2017 @ 12:51 pm

  9. After 3 attempts (comments numbered: 17301, 17303, and 17305) to rationally respond, ‘in kind,’ to your above comment to me, Anonymous, I’ve been unable to, despite no bad language, no active links, no long length. I’ve wasted much of my time in trying to, but will no longer attempt to.

    (Russ, if you’ve been blocking my responses? -again, I’ve tried everything I could to get them past moderation – you should have just let me know I’m not welcome to comment, I would have gladly obliged you.)

    Comment by diane — September 11, 2017 @ 6:25 pm

    • I haven’t blocked anything Diane, and I have nothing in moderation.

      Comment by Russ — September 20, 2017 @ 5:34 am

    • Actually it was in the spam folder, which I hadn’t checked in awhile. I posted it now.

      Comment by Russ — September 20, 2017 @ 5:37 am

  10. Yes I’m familiar with the issues as I AM a radio engineer..

    They forgot to mention DBS and spy satellites which have been using the same bands for decades, (specifically uplink ground stations including sat phones and terminals) also that exposure diminishes by the square root of distance (unless it’s focused into a tight beam which is one of my skills).

    Both here (in town) and in rural areas me and my sister have trouble even getting decent signal levels. My typical level is ~ -100.dbm as read from my phone..

    – which is 1 billionth the level at the cell tower, 3 feet from it’s antenna array. Near-field exposure to penetrating bands (holding present cellular phones up against your head) is a slight concern, enough that I use the speakerphone function and hold the phone a foot away, or use headphones. I avoid placing the phone directly against my head..

    Higher frequencies however don’t even penetrate the skin. I personally work at up to x-band (12.GHz). If I thought *low power* x-band transmitters were harmful I wouldn’t build them. (I do build high power VHF/UHF transmitters and have gotten RF burns from them)

    Tell us of your personal experience with radio flux.

    Comment by Anonymous — September 21, 2017 @ 5:25 pm

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